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Zagg said:
Actually, you're both right in so far as the war was fought about money and slavery.
The money is the reason the South fought to keep slavery as it's economy was based primarily on agriculture for which it needed cheap labor.
The North's economy had shifted to industrialization which was yielding higher, faster profits and generated sufficient wealth even when trickled down to the working man to make it a popular sentiment that all men should be free to take part.
Unfortunately, as the South was dependent on growing cycles and demand for crops, the plantation owners didn't believe they could afford to free the slaves and then hire them back to work the land. Assuming that the freed slaves would even hang around to work for their former owners, which was unlikely if they had been mistreated and especially once they'd find out about jobs in the north.
So yes, the war was fought over money and slavery, just like today (on a much smaller scale of course) we have the liberals and the conservatives in government lining up to fight over benefits procured by the labor unions for their members at taxpayer expense. Everybody wants cheap labor and labor wants to make make as much as they can get.
Been that way since human appeared on the planet- the stronger cave men subjugated the weaker males and females, stronger tribes enslaved weaker ones, even the "enlightened" Greeks and Romans had slaves. Virtually all societies have a bit of slavery somewhere in their closet. Still goes on today in Africa, in the Orient, in the South American drug fields and right here in the good old US of A with the influx of immigrants that take advantage of their own countrymen and women, especially the women, buy placing them into slavery to pay off their "debt' of bringing them to the Promised Land.
Now we return you to our regularly scheduled program- white sluts and faggots being enslaved by the power of Black Pussy and Dick. News at ten, pictures at eleven!
will
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Will: You're right that there was a huge investment in slaves. I believe that it is the greatest single investment in the nation. But that means that the conflict about money was a conflict about slavery. No slavery, no war.
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Zagg said:
Actually it's all moot because while slavery and it's relationship to financial considerations were the underlying causes, the technical reason the war was fought was over secession. The southern states chose to secede from the Union and form their own federal state. The US government refused to recognize the right of the states to secede.
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Of course secession was the proximate cause. But why were southerners threatening secession for almost thirty years? And why did they start to do so merely on the election of a Republican president? Because notherners had been criticizing slavery with increasing severity and vituperation since 1820. And because the raison d'etre of the Republican party was to prevent the extension of slavery. I don't quite understand why so many contemporary Americans want to discount slavery as the grounds of the sectional conflict. Certainly in the antebellum period, southerners clearly understood what the issue was and they didn't mince words about it.
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Here's an abridged version of the South Carolina secession resolution. After some "state rights" generalities, they get down to the specifics: the Yankees have been ragging them about slavery for a long time, and they're not going to put up with it any longer.
Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
(excerpted)
The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue. …..
In the year 1765, that portion of the British Empire embracing Great Britain, undertook to make laws for the government of that portion composed of the thirteen American Colonies. A struggle for the right of self-government ensued, which resulted, on the 4th of July, 1776, in a Declaration, by the Colonies, "that they are, and of right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; and that, as free and independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do."
They further solemnly declared that whenever any "form of government becomes destructive of the ends for which it was established, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new government." …….
In pursuance of this Declaration of Independence, each of the thirteen States proceeded to exercise its separate sovereignty; adopted for itself a Constitution……. expressly declaring, in the first Article "that each State retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence, and every power, jurisdiction and right which is not, by this Confederation, expressly delegated to the United States in Congress assembled."
Under this Confederation the war of the Revolution was carried on, and on the 3rd of September, 1783, the contest ended, and a definite Treaty was signed by Great Britain, in which she acknowledged the independence of the Colonies in the following terms: "ARTICLE 1-- His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz: New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be FREE, SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that he treats with them as such; and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the government, propriety and territorial rights of the same and every part thereof."
Thus were established the two great principles asserted by the Colonies, namely: the right of a State to govern itself; and the right of a people to abolish a Government when it becomes destructive of the ends for which it was instituted. And concurrent with the establishment of these principles, was the fact, that each Colony became and was recognized by the mother Country a FREE, SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT STATE………..
Thus was established, by compact between the States, a Government with definite objects and powers, limited to the express words of the grant. This limitation left the whole remaining mass of power subject to the clause reserving it to the States or to the people, and rendered unnecessary any specification of reserved rights. ……
The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows: "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due." ……….
The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.
……. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. …….. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation. ……
We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.
For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. ……..
The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy.
Sectional interest and animosity will deepen the irritation, and all hope of remedy is rendered vain, by the fact that public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanction of more erroneous religious belief.
We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.
Adopted December 24, 1860
Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
(excerpted)
The people of the State of South Carolina, in Convention assembled, on the 26th day of April, A.D., 1852, declared that the frequent violations of the Constitution of the United States, by the Federal Government, and its encroachments upon the reserved rights of the States, fully justified this State in then withdrawing from the Federal Union; but in deference to the opinions and wishes of the other slaveholding States, she forbore at that time to exercise this right. Since that time, these encroachments have continued to increase, and further forbearance ceases to be a virtue. …..
In the year 1765, that portion of the British Empire embracing Great Britain, undertook to make laws for the government of that portion composed of the thirteen American Colonies. A struggle for the right of self-government ensued, which resulted, on the 4th of July, 1776, in a Declaration, by the Colonies, "that they are, and of right ought to be, FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; and that, as free and independent States, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do."
They further solemnly declared that whenever any "form of government becomes destructive of the ends for which it was established, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute a new government." …….
In pursuance of this Declaration of Independence, each of the thirteen States proceeded to exercise its separate sovereignty; adopted for itself a Constitution……. expressly declaring, in the first Article "that each State retains its sovereignty, freedom and independence, and every power, jurisdiction and right which is not, by this Confederation, expressly delegated to the United States in Congress assembled."
Under this Confederation the war of the Revolution was carried on, and on the 3rd of September, 1783, the contest ended, and a definite Treaty was signed by Great Britain, in which she acknowledged the independence of the Colonies in the following terms: "ARTICLE 1-- His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz: New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, to be FREE, SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT STATES; that he treats with them as such; and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the government, propriety and territorial rights of the same and every part thereof."
Thus were established the two great principles asserted by the Colonies, namely: the right of a State to govern itself; and the right of a people to abolish a Government when it becomes destructive of the ends for which it was instituted. And concurrent with the establishment of these principles, was the fact, that each Colony became and was recognized by the mother Country a FREE, SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT STATE………..
Thus was established, by compact between the States, a Government with definite objects and powers, limited to the express words of the grant. This limitation left the whole remaining mass of power subject to the clause reserving it to the States or to the people, and rendered unnecessary any specification of reserved rights. ……
The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows: "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due." ……….
The same article of the Constitution stipulates also for rendition by the several States of fugitives from justice from the other States.
……. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. …….. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation. ……
We affirm that these ends for which this Government was instituted have been defeated, and the Government itself has been made destructive of them by the action of the non-slaveholding States. Those States have assume the right of deciding upon the propriety of our domestic institutions; and have denied the rights of property established in fifteen of the States and recognized by the Constitution; they have denounced as sinful the institution of slavery; they have permitted open establishment among them of societies, whose avowed object is to disturb the peace and to eloign the property of the citizens of other States. They have encouraged and assisted thousands of our slaves to leave their homes; and those who remain, have been incited by emissaries, books and pictures to servile insurrection.
For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction. ……..
The guaranties of the Constitution will then no longer exist; the equal rights of the States will be lost. The slaveholding States will no longer have the power of self-government, or self-protection, and the Federal Government will have become their enemy.
Sectional interest and animosity will deepen the irritation, and all hope of remedy is rendered vain, by the fact that public opinion at the North has invested a great political error with the sanction of more erroneous religious belief.
We, therefore, the People of South Carolina, by our delegates in Convention assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, have solemnly declared that the Union heretofore existing between this State and the other States of North America, is dissolved, and that the State of South Carolina has resumed her position among the nations of the world, as a separate and independent State; with full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent States may of right do.
Adopted December 24, 1860
Thanks for the history lesson guys but its over and done with. I don't believe the rebel flag is representative of racism or slavery but that's all in the eye of the beholder bottom line is no blacks alive today are slaves and no whites own them we are removed from that situation we didn't cause it or live it so its done. People need to stop using a war that happened 150 years ago as an excuse for anything to day. Besides we are all in this shit together black and white alike the govt is constantly stripping us of freedom. They only care about putting money in their pocket. Blacks and whites are gonna have to be united against our biggest threat yet, our own gov't that no longer serves the will of its people.
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A government and huge transnational corporations that feast while honest working people have to scratch to keep body and soul together. I'm for putting the war behind us. Those who use the battle flag of one of the sides of that war don't seem to be putting it behind them. But, yes, let's have some pics. That's what we're here for.
ckc0 said:
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There you go. Thanks.
ckc0 said:
if everything goes as planned she should be getting her first black cock this weekend i will post pics as soon as i can. I have the black ready to fuck her and she is ready i just gotta get her white boyfriend drunk. he is a light weight so a few wine coolers and he should go home and pass out. Then let the fun begin.
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Definitely keep this thread updated.
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ckc0 said:
Why let the boyfriend go home?
Why don't you just tie him up and let him see what happens to her ;D
If he complains too much gag him as well!
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Actually, you're both right in so far as the war was fought about money and slavery.
The money is the reason the South fought to keep slavery as it's economy was based primarily on agriculture for which it needed cheap labor.
The North's economy had shifted to industrialization which was yielding higher, faster profits and generated sufficient wealth even when trickled down to the working man to make it a popular sentiment that all men should be free to take part.
Unfortunately, as the South was dependent on growing cycles and demand for crops, the plantation owners didn't believe they could afford to free the slaves and then hire them back to work the land. Assuming that the freed slaves would even hang around to work for their former owners, which was unlikely if they had been mistreated and especially once they'd find out about jobs in the north.
So yes, the war was fought over money and slavery, just like today (on a much smaller scale of course) we have the liberals and the conservatives in government lining up to fight over benefits procured by the labor unions for their members at taxpayer expense. Everybody wants cheap labor and labor wants to make make as much as they can get.
Been that way since human appeared on the planet- the stronger cave men subjugated the weaker males and females, stronger tribes enslaved weaker ones, even the "enlightened" Greeks and Romans had slaves. Virtually all societies have a bit of slavery somewhere in their closet. Still goes on today in Africa, in the Orient, in the South American drug fields and right here in the good old US of A with the influx of immigrants that take advantage of their own countrymen and women, especially the women, buy placing them into slavery to pay off their "debt' of bringing them to the Promised Land.
Now we return you to our regularly scheduled program- white sluts and faggots being enslaved by the power of Black Pussy and Dick. News at ten, pictures at eleven!
will
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I Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks Will
The money is the reason the South fought to keep slavery as it's economy was based primarily on agriculture for which it needed cheap labor.
The North's economy had shifted to industrialization which was yielding higher, faster profits and generated sufficient wealth even when trickled down to the working man to make it a popular sentiment that all men should be free to take part.
Unfortunately, as the South was dependent on growing cycles and demand for crops, the plantation owners didn't believe they could afford to free the slaves and then hire them back to work the land. Assuming that the freed slaves would even hang around to work for their former owners, which was unlikely if they had been mistreated and especially once they'd find out about jobs in the north.
So yes, the war was fought over money and slavery, just like today (on a much smaller scale of course) we have the liberals and the conservatives in government lining up to fight over benefits procured by the labor unions for their members at taxpayer expense. Everybody wants cheap labor and labor wants to make make as much as they can get.
Been that way since human appeared on the planet- the stronger cave men subjugated the weaker males and females, stronger tribes enslaved weaker ones, even the "enlightened" Greeks and Romans had slaves. Virtually all societies have a bit of slavery somewhere in their closet. Still goes on today in Africa, in the Orient, in the South American drug fields and right here in the good old US of A with the influx of immigrants that take advantage of their own countrymen and women, especially the women, buy placing them into slavery to pay off their "debt' of bringing them to the Promised Land.
Now we return you to our regularly scheduled program- white sluts and faggots being enslaved by the power of Black Pussy and Dick. News at ten, pictures at eleven!
will
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I Couldn't have said it better myself! Thanks Will
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ckc0 said:
Interesting pictures, but you uploaded them wrong. Click on one of them and you'll see what I mean.
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